Why won’t the Occupy movement, across the nation and in Tampa Bay, reject uncivil, unlawful and violent behavior? The recent growth in such actions in Oakland, New York, Seattle and elsewhere is raising alarm among law-abiding, peace loving citizens. These unacceptable actions include: rape, assault, vandalism, graffiti, attempted kidnapping (“citizen’s arrest”), attempted breaking and entering (“appropriating unused property”), blocking public streets and bridges, invading and disrupting private meetings, shouting down others exercising their right to free speech, public lewdness and defecation and many others. For instance, rather than respect the right of hard working citizens to take a break at St. Petersburg’s “Chill Lounge”, the Occupy St. Pete crowd decided to ruin those people’s hard earned night out by protesting “something” on the sidewalk.
Sun Beam Times founder Dr. McKalip has been working – within the movement – to learn more about the branch in our city, Occupy St. Pete, and to influence their leadership to reject violence and embrace peace. While they have no problem agreeing with with Occupy Wall Street movement’s “Declaration of Occupation“, so far they are declining to sign the MLK declaration of Non-violence. They had declined even discussing specifically rejecting unacceptable behaviors in St. Petersburg. The following was posted on their “forums” section at the Occupy St. Pete website, but the first version was deleted and this reporter was “banned permanently”. After appealing the decision to their de facto leader, Chuck Terzian, I was permitted back on and posted again. The request for peaceful action was then moved from the “Local Action” workgroup and put in an area with little traffic and the only response generated from their leadership (an unnamed “administrative User”) reveals that there is no interest in discussing the merits of this proposal, but more interest in avoiding the topic all together. (Multiple attempts to address this issue on various Occupy St. Pete Facebook forums have been similarly rebuffed)
Thanksgiving is coming and it will be a good opportunity for parents, friends and family to have a private, non-confrontational, conversation with College Students coming home for a few days. Advise them that the path of violence will ruin their lives, the lives of their families and their country. Ask them to think about the peaceful means to change the admittedly corrupt system of crony capitalism and emerging socialism in our country. Ask them to think about the real roots of the problem, Big government in an unholy alliance with crony corporations and the Federal Reserve. Maybe just ask them to focus on their studies and leave the troublemakers behind on campus for now. It is reasonable to want to fight to stop injustice in College, but the Occupy movement is loaded with people who want to break the law to fix it. That is an injustice. The movement is also dominated by openly and proud socialists, communists, anti-capitalists and other elements that have advocated violence and revocation of our country’s most valuable asset: the limited government REPUBLIC created by our constitution. God Bless all during Thanksgiving and God Bless America.
Here is the deleted and then ignored post by Occupy St. Pete.
Maybe these are good talking points to use for your kids over thanksgiving
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Embracing peaceful, effective means for change and renouncing violence
« on: November 16, 2011, 10:19:17 AM »
For some reason a similar post like this was deleted. Hmm.
So here we go again. Here is my opinion of what you need to do to be effective. Please don’t complain I use assertive language like “you need” etc…. THat is jus the way I advocate for things.
I suggest that you need to first come up with some things you want to accomplish. It is not enough to complain about problems anymore. You need to identify the cause of the problems and offer solutions.
You need to engage in non-violent and well-prove effective ways to win. Elect who you want to support your agenda. Go to government meetings and testify. Organize grassroots coalitions to pressure elective officials with letters and phone calls.
There appear to be many in the OWS movement (not predominate in OSP) that seem to want nothing more than a process to create chaos. They appear to want to violate the law and want to provoke confrontations with the police or invade private property. This is not an outcome, this is a technique that leads to more govenrment crackdowns, martial law, less freedom and pain and suffering for all.
So I ask that you issue a written statement to reject, as OSP, the following. I would issue it in a press release and be specific. At the same time indicate the peaceful actions you will do to effect change.
1. Violence against others. murder, rape, assault etc..
2. Confrontations with police or others that provoke violence.
3. Vandalism and graffitti.
4. “Citizens arrests” to abduct a person who is not in the act of committming some obvious crime (like rape or active breaking and entering). This is kidnapping and it is ridiculous to do this to a bank exec. suspect of a white collar crime.
5. Blocking and obstructing streets, ports, businesses and the like.
6. Entering private property, even if it is in “disuse”.
7. Entering and disrupting private meetings.
1. Free speech
2. peaceful assembly
3. Observing reasonable laws designed to protect public safety and the rights of others.
5. Petition to the government and mass communication to public officials.
6. Private actions such as charity to help people.
7. Private actions such as growing local banks and local businesses to allow distance from global and large crony corporate powers.
Thank much for listeninng and I hope noone finds a reason to delete this again,
David McKalip, M.D.
Re: Embracing peaceful, effective means for change and renouncing violence
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2011, 03:23:05 PM »
I have moved this thread. This does not belong in our Work Group sections.
Working Groups seek to “work.” If you have no interest in working (as in contributing time, resources and cash) to this movement then please refrain from posting in the Working Groups or attending group sessions. I understand that the rules have not been stated but a list of reasonable forum rules will be posted soon.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2011, 03:26:31 PM by administrativeuser »
« Reply #2 on: Today at 10:02:28 AM »
Offering good suggestions for action is “work”. I disagree with your moving this thread and point out that you are not revealing your name and are making decisions that are purely arbitrary.